16-04-21 Minutes

 

April 21, 2016

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LAMBTON PRESBYTERY THE UNITED CHURCH OF CANADA

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The Lambton Presbytery met for its regularly scheduled meeting at St. Pauls United, Petrolia on April 21, 2016. Members of St. Pauls United provided a dinner of shepherds pie and salads. The worship service was led by Carolyn Wilson Wynne and the St. Pauls United Choir. Cathy Larmond, president of London Conference, addressed presbyters on this years Conference theme Travelling Along with You. She said the Yourefers to travelling along with God and with each other. She brought a bag of symbols and discussed how they applied to where the United Church is at this point. She said the church does not have the option of staying where it is. She showed the symbol of a lantern, indicating that the church can only see what is around us and may only be able to take two steps forward. She said that the church would love to have a map so that we could say exactly where we are going and what road to take. However, she said that isnt the situation and the remits that church boards and presbyteries will vote on regarding changes in the church are only the first step. She took a toy car from her bag, saying that in order to move forward we have to get our foot off the brake. She described the Sand Dam Project in Mozambique and said that leadership is a key factor in its success as it will be in the upcoming changes. She answered questions regarding the proposed changes and said that church boards that do not vote on the remits are basically voting no. A presbyter said that she wished the church had a plan B. Larmond agreed with the comment that due to finances changes will be made and if the church does not decide then the decisions will be left to the bean counters. Larmond said that an educational component will be offered at the London Conference annual meeting in May, 2016. It was mentioned that church boards would be asked to vote on the remits not the congregations. Also any adherents on the board could not vote.

A short meeting of the Lambton Camp Centre membership was held. Presbyters were encouraged to invite members of their congregation to join the camp centre board.

The meeting of the Lambton Presbytery was constituted with a quorum present at 7:39 p.m. Acting Chair Carolyn Wilson Wynne constituted the meeting, by stating “In the Name of Jesus, the one true Head of the Church, and by the authority vested in me as Lambton Presbytery Chair, I now declare the meeting constituted for the transaction of such business as may properly come before it.Carolyn Wilson Wynne said that she was given permission to use the following introduction that was developed by a Huron-Perth Presbytery group. She said, For thousands of years Indigenous people have walked in this land, in their own territory. Their relationship with the land is at the centre of their lives. We acknowledge the Anishinabek people and their stewardship of this land throughout the ages. May we live with respect on this land, and live in peace and friendship with its people.(Note: The Huron Tract Purchase of 1836 was formalized in Crown Treaty #29, and covered more than one million acres (roughly 4,000 Sq. km.) in parts of the counties of Huron, Perth, Middlesex, Kent, Elgin, and Lambton.

CONSENT DOCKET
Moved by Ann Carr, seconded by Matthew Stevens and carried that the Consent Docket by approved as distributed. (See Appendix, pages 2016: 32)

 

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LAMBTON PRESBYTERY THE UNITED CHURCH OF CANADA

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AGENDA
Moved by Carey Wagner, seconded by Jill Rogers and carried that the Agenda be approved as distributed.

ATTENDANCE
Ministry Personnel: Jim Breen, Carol Ferguson, Sandra Fogarty, Melanie Kirk, Brenda MacMain, Wendy Milliken, Pat Morrison, Brad Morrison, Lilian Patey, Jill Rogers, Marilyn Townsend-Smith, Carey Wagner, Carolyn Wilson Wynne.
Retired Personnel: Connie Ellis, Matthew Stevens
Regrets: Deborah Ambridge Fisher, Christine Jerrett, Dan Leaver, Janet Uren, Doug Wright, Susan Woodhouse, Joe Wynne.

Lay Personnel: Nancy Andrews, Susan Barnetson, Doug Beatty, Pete Brennan, Ida Burley, Ann Carr, Gillian Ewing, Louise Hall, Marion Henderson, Wilma Johnson, Jim Johnson, Jim Louks, Norm MacPherson, Elizabeth McDonald, Bill Milliken, Nick Monsour, Margaret Perry, Judy Raymond, Janice Rising, Pat Whitton, Crystal Worsfold, Judy Stubbs.

Regrets: Bonnie Neely, Phyllis Williamson
Guest: Cathy Larmond, president of London Conference
New presbyters were introduced: Doug Beatty, of London Road West; Judy Stubbs, the new president of the Presbyterial United Church Women.

CORRESPONDENCE(See Appendix, pages 2016:33-34)
The presbytery secretary read an email and letter from Cheryl-Ann Stadelbauer-Sampa, the executive director of London Conference, inviting Lambton Presbytery to host the annual meeting of London Conference in May 26-28, 2017. The location of the meeting will be at the Greek Centre instead of the Hellenic Centre, as it has been in the last few years. The host presbytery arranges snacks, organizes decorations, helps with the retirees
banquet and essentially attends to the comfort of the delegates.

Moved by Brad Morrison, seconded by Jim Breen and carried that Lambton Presbytery host the 2016 annual meeting of Lambton Presbytery.
The presbytery is seeking a coordinator of local arrangements and presbyters were asked prayerfully consider whether they could volunteer for that position. Louise Hall agreed to attend the planning meeting in June, 2016 if a coordinator has not been found by that time.

DIVISION BUSINESS AND MOTIONS PASTORAL OVERSIGHT DIVISION No motions.

 

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LAMBTON PRESBYTERY THE UNITED CHURCH OF CANADA

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MISSION OVERSIGHT DIVISION Pat Whitton
Moved by Sandra Fogarty, seconded by Wendy Milliken that Lambton Presbytery accept the grant application from the Futures, Revitalization and New Growth Fund from Hope United Church for $2,600. Abstention: Jim Breen, Sandra Fogarty
The money is to help finance a camp program involving Brigden United and Hope United, in which the Hope congregation develops the leadership of its young people through a program at Brigden United to connect with young families.

Five Oaks Proposal
Moved by Wendy Milliken, seconded by Ann Carr and carried that Lambton Presbytery proposes that London Conference initiate discussion towards transferring Five Oaks land upon closure to the Six Nations.
(Appendix, pages 2016: 35) In mid-April, 2016, the board of Five Oaks announced its plans to recommend to Hamilton Conference that Five Oaks close as of November, 2016. The proposal is to be sent to the executive secretary of London Conference.

Mission and Service Fund

Wilma Johnson, coordinator of the presbytery mission and service fund, reported that the presbytery had received a Certificate of Thanksgiving from the Right Rev. Jordan Cantwell, the moderator of the United Church, for its 2015 contribution of $305,365. In a letter, dated March, 2016, Cheryl Curtis, the Mission and Service Funding Officer, reported that London Conference raised a total of $2,394,875 for a national total of $27,090,795. (See Appendix, pages 2016: 36)

STEWARDSHIP OVERSIGHT Nick Monsour

Financial Report:

Treasurer Connie Ellis presented the financial report and asked for questions.

Moved by Matthew Stevens, seconded by Louise Hall and carried that the financial report be approved as distributed.

Financial Review
Moved by Connie Ellis, seconded by Jim Louks, and carried that Lambton Presbytery approve Linda Hewitt to serve as the reviewer of the financial books for 2015.

Transfer of Ownership
Moved by Elizabeth Wood, seconded by Judy Raymond and carried that Lambton Presbytery as part of the United Church of Canada approve a transfer of ownership and operation of the Blackwell United Church Cemetery to the Blackwell Cemetery Board.

Mandaumin Church
Moved by Connie Ellis, seconded by Jim Johnson and carried that Lambton Presbytery approve the request from Mandaumin United Church to sell their church building and property.
Abstention: Wendy Milliken

 

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LAMBTON PRESBYTERY THE UNITED CHURCH OF CANADA

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NOMINATIONS
Moved by Brenda MacMain, seconded by Melanie Kirk and carried that Connie Ellis be appointed as our representative to London Conference Executive for the next two years. Abstention: Connie Ellis

Moved by Carey Wagner, seconded by Brenda MacMain and carried that Louise Hall be appointed as our alternate to London Conference Executive for the next two years. Abstention: Louise Hall

Moved by Louise Hall, seconded by Jim Breen and carried that Norm MacPherson be appointed as our lay representative to the Settlement Committee of London Conference. Abstention: Norm MacPherson

Moved by Jim Breen, seconded by Jill Rogers and carried that Carol Ferguson be appointed as Lambton representative to London Conference Internship Committee. Abstention: Carol Ferguson

New Chair
Moved by Brenda MacMain, seconded by Pat Whitton and carried that Matthew Stevens be nominated as chair of Lambton Presbytery for two years.
Abstention: Matthew Stevens Moved by Pat Whitton, seconded by Brad Morrison and carried that nominations be closed.
Moved by Brenda McMann, seconded by Pat Whitton and carried that Matthew Stevens be acclaimed as chair of Lambton Presbytery for two years.
Abstention: Matthew Stevens

London Conference Representatives
Moved by Louise Hall, seconded by Brad Morrison and carried that Lambton Presbytery approve the following to attend the 2016 annual meeting of London Conference, as they have been approved by their pastoral charges: Diane Anderson-Robinson, Chris Cooke, Madeleine McCaw, Janice Rising.

Moved by Louise Hall, seconded by Lilian Patey and carried that Nick Monsour be approved to attend the 2016 annual meeting of London Conference as a member-at-large.

LONDON CONFERENCE EXECUTIVE REPORT

Connie Ellis, the Lambton Presbytery representative on the Conference Executive, reported on its meeting held April 20, 2016. (Appendix, pages 2016:37)

LAMBTON CAMP CENTRE

Lambton Presbytery received a requested from the Lambton Centre board for approval of its application for a United Church Capital Camp Grant of $4,000.
Moved by Pat Morrison, seconded by Jim Breen and carried that the Lambton Presbytery approve the application by the Lambton Camp Centre for $4,000 from the Capital Camp Grant.

 

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LAMBTON PRESBYTERY THE UNITED CHURCH OF CANADA

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ADJOURNMENT
Chair Carolyn Wilson Wynne closed the meeting with prayer. Moved by Carey Wagner, seconded by Marilyn Townsend-Smith and carried that the meeting of Presbytery adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 8:45 p.m.

 

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LAMBTON PRESBYTERY

THE UNITED CHURCH OF CANADA

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CONSENT DOCKET - LAMBTON PRESBYTERY REGULAR MEETING

A CONSENT DOCKET contains motions that are not likely to require discussion. If anyone wishes to discuss an item it will be removed from the Consent Docket and placed on the Discussion Docket. If anyone has a question for clarification about an item on the Consent Docket it will be answered if possible with a brief explanation. The item may be put on the Discussion Docket at the Chairperson’s discretion.

The following are basic facilitating motions for the meeting:

  1. (A)  THAT the ROLL CALL be those who signify their attendance by legibly signing the attendance sheets (The Secretary will list any names that have been received for Regrets on the Attendance Sheet).

  2. (B)  THAT all VISITORS be made CORRESPONDING MEMBERS (which means that visitors are invited to speak but DO NOT HAVE A VOTE.)

  3. (C)  THAT all LICENCED LAY WORSHIP LEADERS be made CORRESPONDING MEMBERS and receive all Presbytery Correspondence.

  4. (D)  THAT all MINUTES of Lambton Presbytery pages 2015: 8-20 be accepted as

    printed.

  5. (E)  THAT the CORRESPONDENCE be distributed to and dealt with by the

    Committee or Division as per the CORRESPONDENCE RECEIVED listed in

    the Minutes of Lambton Presbytery.

  6. (F)  THAT the Court waives use of a BALLOT for Pastoral Relations motions

    UNLESS REQUESTED by any one voting member.

  7. (G)  THAT all MOTIONS be written clearly or typed for the Secretary.

  8. (H)  THAT all REPORTS be written clearly or typed for inclusion in the Minutes .

  9. (I)  THAT the EXECUTIVE of Lambton Presbytery is granted POWERS of

    PRESBYTERY for necessary business, upon this meeting’s adjournment until

    the next meeting of Lambton Presbytery.

A motion will be received to accept the Consent Docket in its entirety unless someone has requested that an item be moved to the DISCUSSION Docket to allow discussion. The remainder will be accepted as one item.

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LAMBTON PRESBYTERY THE UNITED CHURCH OF CANADA

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CORRESPONDENCE FROM MARCH TO APRIL, 2016 GC=General Council; LC= London Conference; GD= General Distribution

Date Correspondence Distribution

March 11, 2016 March 14, 2016 March 16, 2016 March 16, 2016 March 18, 2016

March 21, 2016 March 22, 2016 March 22, 2016 March 23, 2016 March 29, 2016 March 29, 2016 March 29, 2016

March 29, 2016

April 1, 2016 April 6, 2016

April 7, 2016 April 7, 2016

April 7, 2016 April 7, 2016 April 7, 2016 April 8, 2016 April 9, 2016 April 9, 2016

April 11, 2016 April 14, 2016 April 14, 2016 April 14, 2016 April 14, 2016 April 15, 2016

LC: Remits Ready
LC: Latest from LoCo newsletter
London Conference Registration
LC: March Bridge deadline
Questions about membership on board of Lambton Camp Centre
LC: Registration for London Conference Refugee Update
Draft minutes of March Executive
Kent Presbytery Executive Minutes
Middlesex Presbytery Executive Minute Condolences
LC: Registration for Youth Forum Closes this Friday
GC: Mission and Service Certificate of Thanksgiving
Draft Minutes of March Executive
LC: Pastoral Charges that have not submitted Statistical Forms for 2016
Five Oaks: April newsletter
Middlesex Presbytery Resource Centre newsletter
Let’s Keep Talking Resources
LC: Latest from LoCo for April 6, 7, 2016
GC: Overdue Statistical Forms
LC: Minute Books
French for Ministry Courses Offered
LC: Reminder: Call to Action: Moraviantown on April 10, 2016
Reminder: Ministry and Personal Workshop Kent Presbytery Minutes for April 5, 2016
Five Oaks: Important Announcement
God’s Mission: Our Gifts
United Church Ministers: Invitation to Survey Latest from Lo: Co message

Executive GD
Filed
GD Executive

Filed GD GD Filed Filed GD GD

For April meeting

GD Forwarded

GD GD

GD
GD Forwarded Filed Ministers GD

GD
Filed
GD
GD Ministers Replied

Notices & Events for General Distribution

  •   Scott Woods Concert at Camlachie United on April 8, 2016

  •   United Church Women’s Ham Supper at Forest United on April 15, 2016

 

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  •   Walrus Talks Spirituality at Grace United on April 4, 2016

  •   Maundy Thursday at St. Paul’s United, Sarnia on March 24, 2016

  •   Ministry and Personnel Workshop at Dunlop United on April 16, 2016

  •   Trivial Pursuit Night on April 9, 2016 at Central United

  •   Spring Rummage/Garage Sale at Central United April 15-16, 2016

  •   Forest United’s Movie Night on April 20 at Kineto Theatre

  •   Fish Fry at Camlachie United on May 4, 2016

  •   Spring Splendor of Music at London Road West on April 29, 2016

  •   Call to Action at Moraviantown United on April 10, 2016

  •   Potluck Luncheon for Rev. David Dyke’s Retirement Celebration on April 17 at Forest

    United

  •   Madina’s Dream at Sarnia Justice Film on April 23, 2016 at Sarnia Library Theatre

  •   Frankie and the Fairlanes’ Fundraiser for Presbyterian Refugee Fund on April 17, 2016

  •   Spaghetti Dinner at High Park United on April 19,, 2016

 

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LAMBTON PRESBYTERY THE UNITED CHURCH OF CANADA

www.lambtonpresbytery.org

PROPOSAL
Proposal Name: For Right Relations Transfer of Five Oaks Land to Six Nations

Originating Court: Lambton Presbytery
Court of Action: London Conference Personnel/Staff Implications: Conference staff time Financial Implications: Unknown/Value of Land Date: April 21, 2016
Lambton Presbytery Proposes:

That London Conference initiates discussion towards transferring Five Oaks land upon closure to the Six Nations.

Background:

Five Oaks stands on land on which a Cayuga settlement stood and was part of the Six Nations reserve before being sold. London Conference is one of the originating conferences as well as a conference served by Five Oaks.

The United Church of Canada attempts to live out their apology and the Truth and Reconciliation Commission’s call to seek reconciliation. We have the example of the transfer of Fairfield land to the Moravians by the United Church of Canada

 

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LAMBTON PRESBYTERY THE UNITED CHURCH OF CANADA

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London Conference Executive Meeting April 20, 2015

Nominating Committee Report E&S Chair – Laurie O’Leary

Settlement Chair Louise Hall

Finance & Administration renewal of term for Mary Ann Silverthorn for an additional 3 Years

Approval given for hiring a replacement for the Pastoral Support Minister

Discuss the appropriateness of offering Stewardship Event for congregations .... will target the fall

Approved the revised mandate for the Division of Social Justice

Division of Finance and Administration advised that assistant treasurer Brent Caslick will step into the Treasurer position and Bev Slater will remain on the committee as Assistant Treasurer

-reviewed the highlights of the 2017 budget : recommending to AGM as assessment rate of 2.7 from 2.4; the archive fund is at 190,000 and budget draws money to help cover annual archive fees; do not want to draw down unrestricted reserves due to the possibility it will be needed to cover severance payments; want to maintain assessment levels as there will be no contribution from General Council and 2018 and beyond assessments will increase; if model of funding passes M&S Funds will be for M&S only

and administration will be covered by assessments

Brief discussion around Remits and appropriateness of doing some back ground on each remit

at the AGM; General Secretary reiterated the hope that congregations will deal with their remits by the end of February so as to begin determining a process for transition; adherents are not allowed to vote on remits; reminder that we are not voting for the proposed structure

versus current because the current structure cannot continue to be supported (so it’s the proposed structure versus something unknown)

 

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