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September 17, 2015

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Lambton Presbytery met for its regularly scheduled meeting at Lambton Centre on September 17, 2015, with a quorum present. Dinner was prepared by a centre volunteer. John Fisher, development officer for Lambton Centre, reported on the camp. (See Appendix page 2015: 58,59 ) Past chair Carolyn Wilson Wynne opened the meeting at 6:15 p.m. with prayer and declared, “In the name of Jesus Christ, the one true head of the Church, and by the authority given to me by Lambton Presbytery, I declare this meeting of Lambton Presbytery open for the transaction of business as may properly come before it.”

CONSENT DOCKET
Moved by Jim Breen, seconded by Marilyn Townsend-Smith and carried that the Consent Docket be approved as distributed.
(See Appendix 2015: 55)

AGENDA
Moved by Doug Wright, seconded by Jim Breen, and carried that the agenda be approved as distributed.

ATTENDANCE
Ministry Personnel:
Jim Breen, Susan Browning, David Dyke, Carol Ferguson, Sandra Fogarty, Dan Leaver, Brenda MacMain, Wendy Milliken, Pat Morrison, Brad Morrison, Betty Jean Page, Lilian Patey, Jill Rogers, Marilyn Townsend-Smith, Janet Uren, Carey Wagner, Carolyn Wilson Wynne, Doug Wright Matthew Stevens. Regrets: Blair Corcoran, Christine Jerrett, Adam Kilner, Melanie Kirk, Val Pitt, Susan Woodhouse, Connie Ellis.

Lay representatives: Nancy Andrews, Susan Barnetson, Pete Brennan, Ida Burley, Louise Hall, Marion Henderson, Jim Louks, Norm MacPherson, Elizabeth McDonald, Bill Milliken, Nick Monsour, Bonnie Neely, Margaret Perry, Judy Raymond, Janice Rising, Phyllis Williamson. Regrets: Diane Anderson-Robinson, Ann Carr, Nora Gibson, Wilma Johnson, Jim Johnson, Madeline McCaw, Jack Prouse, Pat Whitton.

Corresponding: Ward Armitage Regrets: Maxine Quinn Guests: Geraldine Robertson, John Fisher

CORRESPONDENCE (See Appendix: 2015- 56,57) DIVISION BUSINESS AND MOTIONS

PASTORAL OVERSIGHT Louise Hall
Moved by Sandra Fogarty, seconded by Jim Breen and carried that Lambton Presbytery having received the updated report from St. Paul’s United Church, Sarnia declare a vacancy for a half-time minister.

Moved by Louise Hall, seconded by Carey Wagner and carried that Lambton Presbytery accept the names of the interview team for St. Paul’s United, Sarnia as follows: Heather

 

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Danen, John Veness, Diane Slack, Kevin Graham, Chris Cowley, Aaron Devereaux, Bart Verge.

MISSION OVERSIGHT Ida Burley on behalf of Pat Whitton
Moved by Dan Leaver, seconded by Ruth Leitch and carried that Lambton Presbytery approve the application from Grace United for $600 from the Lambton Presbytery Futures, Revitalization and New Growth Fund to assist with the cost of bringing Rev. John Pentland to do his “Fishing Tips” workshops.

Moved by Dan Leaver, seconded by Wendy Milliken and carried that Lambton Presbytery request of London Conference $33,145 from Mission Support to begin January 1, 2016 to sustain the ministry of St. Clair United Church for the year 2016.
Geraldine Robertson, of Aamjiwnaang First Nations, said this was more than last year when $27,000 was requested.

STEWARDSHIP OVERSIGHT Nick Monsour
Nick Monsour commented on the financial statement that indicated that three churches have not yet paid their assessments.

NOMINATIONS No Report

GENERAL COUNCIL COMMISSIONERS’ REPORT

Commissioners Doug Wright, Carey Wagner, Sue Browning, and Matthew Stevens told about their experiences and impressions at the General Council in August, 2015 in Corner Brook, Newfoundland. Carey Wagner described it as “an emotional experience” after having read1,000 pages of paperwork, days of discussion to realize that “the Holy Spirit had shown up”. He said that despite the unanimous approval of the report on accessibility, one of the commissioners who was wheelchair-bound, still had to take her supper in a styrofoam container as she didn’t have access to the restaurant. Matthew Stevens said it was amazing to watch how the young people came together. “Something exciting is happening among the youth,” He said it has encouraged him to move into the future. Doug Wright said that the decisions of the 42nd annual General Council have provided the direction for the church but the fine details have to be worked out. Sue Browning said that the video “Fishing for the Future” is a summary of what happened at the General Council and encouraged congregations to show it. The link is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EphaaTyF5s&feature=youtu.be The presbyteries and churches will begin to see remits on the various decisions made at General Council after the meeting of the General Council Executive in November, 2015. Doug Wright said that the remits are expected to be phased in.

Carey Wagner read a letter from Cathy Hammond, chair of London Conference and Cheryl-Ann Stadelbauer-Sampa, executive director of London Conference, encouraging presbyters to be sensitive to the various reactions to the General Council’s decision to divest from fosil fuels. They were aware that many people in Alberta and in the Sarnia area make their living from the fosil fuel industries. The United Church cannot dictate to the Pension Fund or the United Church

 

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Foundation, but can give its direction. Doug Wright said that it is more of a symbolic act as the United Church has only a small amount of its finances in fosil fuels.

Presbyters were told that the one order ministry proposal passed. However, it was passed with the understanding that further discussion would occur at the time of the remits.

FACILIATED DISCUSSION ON TRANSITIONING TO NEW MODEL:

Brad Morrison led presbyters in an exercise where they listed all the activities of their divisions. They were then asked to organize them in order of their importance. He will then develop a list which will be sent to presbyters. He said that presbyters will be asked to problem-solve at the November meeting of Presbytery around how this work will be done when presbyteries no longer exist. Lambton Presbytery has voted to be a pilot project to test the new model. Brad Morrison presented a notice of motion that will be brought before the presbytery at the November meeting. It said “that Lambton Presbytery undertake the pilot project authorized by London Conference which includes a) suspending meetings of the full court and divisions of presbytery following the November 2015 meeting, b) referring business to presbytery executive, c) convening the full court of presbytery to deal with remits as necessary, and d) entrusting to presbytery executive the timing of the decision to discontinue the pilot project”. He proposed that the regularly scheduled presbytery meetings in February, April, and June 2016 be used for non-business, non-division, non-court gatherings focused on collegial support and local ministry support. For full report, see Appendix: 2015-60,61)

Jim Breen led a prayer of thanks for all the work that presbyters have done over the years to further the mission of Jesus Christ.

ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Brenda MacMain, seconded by Pete Brennan, and carried that Lambton Presbytery adjourn.
Carolyn Wilson Wynne closed the meeting with prayer at 7:53 p.m.

CAROLYN WILSON WYNNE, CHAIR NANCY ANDREWS, SECRETARY

 

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APPENDIX

CONSENT DOCKET - LAMBTON PRESBYTERY REGULAR MEETING

A CONSENT DOCKET contains motions that are not likely to require discussion. If anyone wishes to discuss an item it will be removed from the Consent Docket and placed on the Discussion Docket. If anyone has a question for clarification about an item on the Consent Docket it will be answered if possible with a brief explanation. The item may be put on the Discussion Docket at the Chairperson’s discretion.

The following are basic facilitating motions for the meeting:

(A) That the ROLL CALL be those who signify their attendance by legibly signing the attendance sheets (The Secretary will list any names that have been received for Regrets on the Attendance Sheet). (B) That all VISITORS be made CORRESPONDING MEMBERS (which means that visitors are invited to speak but do not have a vote.)
(C) That all LICENCED LAY WORSHIP LEADERS be made CORRESPONDING MEMBERS and receive all Presbytery Correspondence.
(D) That all MINUTES of Lambton Presbytery pages to are accepted as printed from 2015-43 to 2015- 50.
(E) That the CORRESPONDENCE be distributed to and dealt with by the Committee or Division as per the CORRESPONDENCE RECEIVED listed in the Minutes of Lambton Presbytery.
(F) That the Court waives use of a BALLOT for Pastoral Relations motions UNLESS REQUESTED by any one voting member.
(G) That all MOTIONS be written clearly or typed for the Secretary.
(H) That all REPORTS be written clearly or typed for inclusion in the Minutes.
(I) That the EXECUTIVE of Lambton Presbytery is granted POWERS of PRESBYTERY for necessary
business, upon this meeting’s adjournment until the next meeting of Lambton Presbytery.

A motion will be received to accept that Consent Docket in its entirety unless someone has requested that an item be moved to the DISCUSSION Docket to allow discussion. The remainder will be accepted as one item.

 

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CORRESPONDENCE FROM JUNE TO SEPTEMBER, 2015

June 12, 2015 June 15, 2015 June 16, 2015 June 18, 2015` June 18, 2015 June 23, 2015 June 24, 2015 June 24, 2015 June 24, 2015 June 24, 2015 June 25, 2015 June 26, 2015 June 26, 2015 June 30, 2015 June 30, 2015 July 2, 2015 July 5, 2015 July 6, 2015 July 7, 2015 July 9, 2015 July 13, 2015 July 14, 2015 July 15, 2015 July 17, 2015 July 22, 2015 July 24, 2015

July 24, 2015 July 29, 2015 July 30, 2015 July 30, 2015 August 2, 2015 August 3, 2015 August 4, 2015 August 9, 2015 August 14, 2015 August 14, 2015 August 17, 2015 August 18, 2015 August 20, 2015 August 20, 2015 Sept. 1, 2015

Minutes of Kent Presbytery, June 12, 2015 Futures Application
LC: Changes in Presbytery Executive Land Line cancelled

Change of contact information: Armitage` Summer Availability List
GC: Pastoral Charges to Submit 2014 Statistics Five Oaks: Redevelopment
LC: Latest from LoCo, June 24, 2015 Lambton Centre looking for items
Get Well Card to Anne Gilliland
GC: Admission Circulation List
Summer Availability List Completed
Five Oaks Centre
July Newsletter
Draft Minutes of June meeting
Kent Presbytery Executive Minutes
Port Lambton Mission and Service Numbers GC: Address sought for Rev. Miner Clare
GC: God’s Mission, Our Gifts
Middlesex Minutes of June 16, 2015 Information re: Presbytery meetings sought Music Director Needed
July 10 Presbytery Dues
Cheque for Treasurer from Mandaumin
Draft Minutes of June Meeting
Five Oaks: re: Alvin Dixon Memorial Fund Run
Five Oaks: August Newsletter
Three month appointment at Forest United
LC: Lambton Presbytery Executive
Rev. David’s retirement
Webmaster: Need for Windows 7 for Secretary Lambton Report
E-ssentials: Connect with GC42 Online
GC: God’s Mission, Our Gifts
LC: Address change
LC: Mission Support Grant Applications
LC: Chair of Lambton Presbytery
New email for St. Luke’s United
LC: Called to be the Church
LC: Correction of Called to be the Church
Five Oaks: September newsletter

Filed
GD Replied Filed Forwarded Ministers Forwarded GD

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Sent
For September meeting GD

Filed Executive Filed Forwarded Replied GD

Filed
Replied
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Forwarded to Treasurer Delivered to treasurer GD

GD

GD
Forwarded to Pastoral Relations Replied
Filed
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Sept. 2, 2015

Covenanting Service for Rev. Patey?

Chair

Sept. 6, 2015

Donations to Refugee Committee

GD

Sept. 7, 2015

Middlesex Presbytery Minutes

Filed

Sept. 7, 2015

LC: 2016 London Conference Assessment

Treasurer

Sept. 8, 2015

Summer Commission Report

Forwarded LC

Sept. 8, 2015

Five Oaks: Christmas flyer

GD

Sept. 10, 2015

God's Mission, Our Gifts: Stewardship, Mission and Service News

GD

Sept. 10, 2015

United Church Foundation

GD

Notices and Events: General Distribution

  •   Lambton Centre Pork and Beef BBQ on August 8, 2015

  •   Fish and Chips at Camlachie United on August 16, 2015

  •   Great Lakes-St. Lawrence Region Fall Conference on Reconciliation is in The Wind at

    Calvary United, London Oct 2-3, 2015

  •   Fall Luncheon and Bazaar at Forest United Church on October 2, 2015

  •   34th Annual Fall Roast Beef Dinner at London Road West United on September 29,

    2015.

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  •   “Fishing Tips” at Grace United Church on October 23, 2015 with author John Pentland on church growth.

  •   London Conference Open House on September 15, 2015.

Maude Barlow and Friends! "Time for Change: A Public Forum on the State of Our

Democracy" on June 22, 2015

Register for June 17 webinar on Free, Prior & Informed Consent; video Dismantling the

Doctrine of Discovery; and more resources and opportunities

Canada's Chemical Valley Toxic Tour 2015 on September 4 5, 2015.

Labour Day Welcome Feast on September 4, 2015 at Aamjiwnaang First Nation

Community Centre: Maawn Doosh Gumig on September 10, 2015

Mark Payne, former musical director at Victoria Playhouse in Petrolia, to perform on August 23, 2015 at St. Paul's in Petrolia for a service of special music.

Frankie & the Fairlanes on Sept. 20, 2015 at Grace United Church.

Cliff Erikson concert at Forest Legion on Nov. 6, 2015, sponsored by Forest United

Church.

Courtright Sixth Line Mission Dominican Republic 2016 Fall Fundraiser:

at the Courtright Silver Dome with Cliff Erickson Lasagna Supper Silent Auction on September 26, 2015

 

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Lambton Centre Summer 2015 Presented on 2015/09/17

1. Summer Camp

  1. Lambton Centre had another successful year of summer camp with over 200 children attending.

  2. Highlights included a sold out Splash Day Camp, a successful trip to Pinery Provincial Park for Senior Co-Ed week, and successful partnerships with Reach for the Rainbow (a program that works to integrate campers with various disabilities), a number of Children’s Aid Societies which allowed a number of children to attend camp that otherwise might not have, and campers that took advantage of our Bursary Program. We also worked with Community Living Sarnia Lambton to provide a summer work experience to a student to work in the kitchen. One mother who took advantage of the Bursary Program said she was very grateful that her daughter was able to come to camp and allow her to experience the programing and nature that Lambton Centre has to offer.

  1. Outdoor Education

    1. Over 650 students from the Lambton Kent District Board, St. Clair Catholic District School Board and the Thames Valley District School Board attended our outdoor education programs in May and June programs with an additional 125 who did their own programing

    2. Students come for the day and experience activities such as archery, low-ropes, teambuilding, nature discovery, geocaching, water games and mountain biking.

    3. Coupons for 10% off a week of camp were offered to outdoor education students.

  2. Seasonal Campground

a. We had over 50 seasonal campers this year and are already planning for next year. New items this year were monthly seasonal campground meetings and a monthly newsletter to enhance communication between campers and the Lambton Centre Board and staff. Two successful social events were also planned by the Board. One for Canada Day which included fireworks, bbq and impromptu soccer came between campers and summer camp staff where the campers won with a score of three to 2. Another BBQ and potluck was held in August with over 30 people in attendance. These items will looked at for next year.

 

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4. Other activities

  1. A new marketing and branding strategy is being developed.

  2. A new strategic plan for next the next five years is being developed.

  3. Lambton Centre has a new vision statement – “Lambton Centre is a camp-based

    community partner dedicated to enriching lives through outdoor education and recreation.” This new vision enables Lambton Centre to focus on community partnerships and provides better direction for staff and board activities over the next five years.

  4. Lambton Centre received funding for an accessible playground which will be installed in the spring. This funding came from the Enabling Accessibility program offered by the Government of Canada. Lambton Centre had a visit from the local MP in July to support this project.

  5. Lambton Centre will be launching a new fundraising campaign call the Roots Campaign. This will be focusing on capital and infrastructure upgrades. Costs of fixing infrastructure notably electricity is increasing ad we will need to replace a number of systems over the next few years. We are looking to the possibility of having an engineer’s report funded by the Ontario Government to assess the infrastructure and make longer term plans for these replacements.

  6. John Fisher, Development Co-ordinator will be visiting ministers and congregations over the next couple of months and getting to know Lambton County and the successes and challenges of each of the congregations.

 

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Lambton Presbytery
Three Court Pilot Project
Background
Prior to General Council 42, London Conference and Lambton Presbytery authorized a pilot project in Lambton Presbytery to test the proposed three court model. This summer, General Council approved remits to test denominational restructuring. Lambton Presbytery is now invited to experiment with how a presbytery would make the transition from current operations to ceasing to exist.
The primary tasks include:

model. That is, what happens to presbytery work when presbytery ceases to exist;
problem solving how this work will transition into the responsibilities of London Conference (and

its successor Region);
connected to a church court or governing council.

Assumptions

Lambton Presbytery’s participation in this pilot project means we are addressing the possible change to a three court structure sooner than we need to. That is, we could decide not to experiment and wait until the remit process is complete. However, participation in the pilot project lets us control our own future and provide leadership to the rest of the denomination, rather than waiting for others to design the transition and impose it upon us. Perhaps the remits will fail; nonetheless, we have a responsibility as a presbytery to consider a transition path in a timely way just in case the remit does pass.

Presbytery’s pilot project also needs to be realistic. That is, at some point in the experiment we’ll need to actually cease to meet as the divisions and court of presbytery. This realism will force us to discover the true impact of ceasing to exist so that our problem solving work will produce realistic solutions. Technically, Lambton Presbytery will not cease to exist; rather, we’d suspend meetings of the full court and its divisions for a period of time. The presbytery executive would continue to meet to conduct business as needed, and the chair can still call meetings of the full court to address matters, such as remits, as needed. Lambton Presbytery Three Court Pilot Project 2

 

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Proposed Process

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The following are proposed steps in the pilot project process:

undertake the pilot project authorized by London Conference which includes a) suspending meetings of the full court and divisions of presbytery following the November 2015 meeting, b) referring business to presbytery executive, c) convening the full court of presbytery to deal with remits as necessary, and d) entrusting to presbytery executive the timing of the decision to discontinue the pilot project”;

that would be impacted by a move to the three court model;
the full court and divisions;
process to transition tasks to London Conference (and its successor Region);
business, non-division, non-court gatherings focused on collegial support and local ministry support; London Conference staff and executive;

Pilot Project Meetings

The discussion, facilitated by Brad Morrison, at the September meeting will take one hour to gather presbyters into groups to identify an exhaustive list of tasks impacted by presbytery ceasing to exist. The discussion question is:

congregational matters are impacted by Lambton

Presbytery ceasing to exist?

The discussion, facilitated by Brad Morrison, at the November meeting will take one hour to gather presbyters into groups to problem solve issues that may arise when the tasks identified in September are transferred to London Conference. The discussion question(s) will be designed after analysis of the task list generated in the September meeting.

Submitted by Brad Morrison

roblem solving - 

 

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